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This is fascinating stuff and I wholly agree. Recently I read a book about an English parish (Morebath) at the time of the Reformation in the 16th century. The people pretty much "owned" the church and while it didn't have formal guilds, it did have multiple small associations whose purpose was to supply candles for images of saints, supply for the needs of the church and raise money to support it and its people generally. These groups were a web of support and discipline, with clear expectations of each member of the community as they included things like serving the church in an official capacity of some kind for a period of time. The State, in imposing the protestant religion, gradually broke all those bonds, leaving its people subject to the whims of their rulers and also impoverished. This made them more reliant on the state, which was the goal. It should be recognised that king Henry VIII abolished certain feast days in the English church as he thought the people were having too many holidays and not working hard enough - that's where the modern world started.

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